mh doom

May. 1st, 2013 12:51 pm
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xela@dr-wily:~$ inc
If you are seeing this message, you are using POP to connect to MIT's
legacy mail ("Cyrus") infrastructure.

Please note that MIT is planning to retire the Cyrus IMAP/POP servers
in December 2013.  You will be contacted individually prior to your
scheduled migration.  After your migration, you will no longer be able
to use "inc" to check your e-mail, and will have to migrate to a
different e-mail client such as Pine.

For more information, please see http://debathena.mit.edu/inc
(You will only receive this message once.)

Heavy sigh.

Date: 2013-05-01 05:29 pm (UTC)
coraline: (eyecon)
From: [personal profile] coraline
yup. i switched over last year when they made the policy clear, but it really did feel like they'd ripped it out of my cold (not so dead) hands :}

Date: 2013-05-01 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alierak.livejournal.com
There's probably a fairly simple workaround if you've got something like fetchmail. If I remember right inc can read from a local mail spool too, so you just need something that speaks IMAP to download the mail with.

Date: 2013-05-02 02:40 am (UTC)
siderea: (The Charmer)
From: [personal profile] siderea
If I remember right inc can read from a local mail spool too

Yes, this is what I do. Instead of using the default inc behavior, I use procmail to sort my mail into what I think of as subspools, and then inc those: inc -file $subspool. Note, however, that when you use the -file option, inc no longer defaults to clearing the spool the way it does usually, so to force that behavior, you add -truncate.

I know our host despises procmail, but I am assuming that if MIT is allowing pine, there is some way to get mail delivered to procmail, and from procmail, it's a simple thing to dump it into a local spool of your choice.

Of course, none of this helps if MIT deletes nmh. Ah, I see they're not planning to.

...I should go ask if my hosting company has a referral bonus.
Edited Date: 2013-05-02 02:48 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-05-01 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sammason.livejournal.com
Yer wot? (translation to merkin: Huh?)

Date: 2013-05-01 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakshaver.livejournal.com
Thank you for that smile, Sam. :)

That's not even a transAtlantic issue: to a first approximation, that post will only make sense to people who've been using MIT's email system continuously for the last 20 years. (There are maybe 104 other people it would make sense to, but little chance a lot of them read my LJ.) The short form is that when I went to read my email this morning, I got a notice from MIT that, as of December, I will no longer be able to read my email with the tools I've been using for the last 20 years. A very rich and nerdy set of tools, that I'm still using not least because IMO they are vastly better than anything tha'ts come along in the mean time.

Date: 2013-05-02 02:44 am (UTC)
siderea: (The Charmer)
From: [personal profile] siderea
Is, too, a TransAtlantic issue!

Only place I could find to run nmh for me with adequate disk space for my mail archives is run by a bunch of blokes in The Original Cambridge. :/

I love nmh so much, I'm paying £115/yr for it.

Date: 2013-05-01 08:35 pm (UTC)
jered: (roof1)
From: [personal profile] jered
Are they switching entirely to Exchange? Because, you know, "real businesses use Microsoft products"?

Ugh. You'd think that Zimbra or even (*spit*) gmail would be a more sensible option for MIT. But IS&T hasn't really mattered for about a decade, has it?

Date: 2013-05-01 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yakshaver.livejournal.com
That's my understanding. But bear in mind that for most of the past five years or so, I've been sticking my fingers in my ears and going La, la, la — I can't here you! whenever discussions of where MIT is going on this front come up.

Date: 2013-05-02 03:38 pm (UTC)
coraline: (eyecon)
From: [personal profile] coraline
yeah -- they've already switched over most employees to the exchange servers...

Date: 2013-05-01 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cfox.livejournal.com
I suggest either a first-class exchange client (such as Mail.app) or forwarding your mail elsewhere.

Date: 2013-05-02 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angerona.livejournal.com
Do you know of any good webmail IMAP clients? Or I suppose I can wait until my account gets converted to the new webmail outlook interface (while the old webmail continues sucking big time).

Date: 2013-05-02 02:33 am (UTC)
siderea: (The Charmer)
From: [personal profile] siderea
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